Running short of fuel and in poor visibilty, they headed for what seemed to be an airstrip. in April 1943. On April 25, 1945, the Traveling Circus flew its last mission of the war, the 391st time that 93rd crews had faced the enemy. Added early history and statistics per http://www.usaaf.com/8thaf/bomber/93bg.HTM. Please note that your data will be managed in the US by the American Air Museum in Britain charity. from bases in France beginning in Sep. Im eager to keep going. In this short video the pilot refers to it at about one and a half minutes in and we do a fly past. have picture of dad with lt. Harold saviers crew,305thbomb group,365th squad,40th wing,1st bomb div,chelverston. If ever I get down that part of the country I shall try to pin down the exact spot and add a photo of it. Hi Roger Bean Built by Consolidated Aircraft, the B-24 featured the high-aspect ratio Davis wing, a new airfoil designed to reduce drag and increase lift, thus allowing heavier payloads, faster speeds and generally better performance than the older Boeing B-17. It became a joke in B-17 circles that crews were glad to see the B-24s on a mission because they knew the fighters would go after the Liberators and leave the Flying Fortresses alone. Thanks so much for writing. In early June, the group was taken off combat operations and ordered to begin practicing low-level flying. Campaigns. The 93rd was to be part of the mission code-named Tidal Wave, the disastrous attack on the oil fields in Ploesti, Rumania. Open9 a.m. to 5 p.m. seven days a week. 1944, in preparation for the invasion of Normandy. Whether they produced battlefield images of the dead or daguerreotype portraits of common soldiers, []. 409th Bomb Squadron Squadron View all 66 images Object Number - FRE 5084 - The insignia of the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group. No problem, glad it has answered some questions for you. https://aircrewremembrancesociety3.com/Aircraft-Losses/USAAF-Losses/U.S.A.A.F.Losses-1943/page-49/ The 10-day mission turned out to be a 90-day deployment, with the group operating first from Tafaroui, then moving to Gambut. Fosas ardeatinas de roma en 1944 liberty. United States Army Air Forces, 8th Air Force, United States Army Air Forces, 93rd Bomb Group. Restoration Australia for the drawings above. - The insignia of the 93rd Bomb Group. The B-24D Liberator, 41-23754, named, Little Lady http://www.afhra.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=10618, National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force. Liberator images. The aircraft crashed at 14:55 hrs at Park Farm, Hoxne, Suffolk. Contact Us, If you have any data on servicemen and their units and would like to submit it to our digital library; please Contact Us, Copyright, Army Air Corps Library and Museum, Inc., All Rights Reserved. I moved from Norwich in 1964 although I have been going back on a regular basis as most of my remaining family and some friends live there. 'Exterminator', Supported ground forces After a day of bad weather, the Traveling Circus went to Gotha again on the 24th, followed by Furth on the 25th. Published at 500 342 px. Early next month, the family of our B17s tailgunner will be getting their historic cartridge, in a cheery ceremony at the USAF Academy in Colorado Springs. 'Lucky Commanding Officer 93rd , Air Executive, Deputy Wing Commander. Help us to tell the stories that deserve to be told, by contributing information to the archive. Gordijnen maken cursus dactylodewaele. Thank you, John. Corrected Barksdale location from Florida to Louisiana. Combat Stories The bombers had been recalled due to bad weather but 42-97236 while climbing into formation, encountered a heavy downdraft and the plane went into a dive. They claimed 3 U-Boats destroyed. B24 Liberator Audio Bomber Groups 8. Each time we retrieved these items they were handed to the landowner who was aware of the crash site. Also here (http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/B-24/B-24_Flight_Manual.pdf). Re; B-24 crash Swansea, South Wales area. Superfortress 44-61999 Over-Exposed! air crash site on Bleaklow, Aviation Archeological Research and Investigation, https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/AARmonthly/May1945O.htm, http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/12924, http://www.parhamairfieldmuseum.co.uk/390th-bomb-group/interesting-information-and-facts/, https://aircrewremembrancesociety3.com/Aircraft-Losses/USAAF-Losses/U.S.A.A.F.Losses-1943/page-49/, All photos and text are aircrashsites.co.uk unless otherwise stated. Other crews saw their leader take three more hits and burst into flames. Chambers, to explode, Lieutenant! 93rd bomb group, 409th squadron. Henry David Fulmer Jr. Sign up now to receive news and communications from American Air Museum in Britain charity. 8, 1944 at Bracon Ash. 345th Bomb Group - front | back. Boomerang flew 53 total missions, including Ploesti, and her gunners were credited with downing one Italian and 11 German fighters before she was sent to the United States on a war bond tour in the spring of 1944. to England, Feb-Mar 1944, and assigned to Ninth AF. I dont think this is the correct place because your dates are different, but Im looking for more information about the crash where my great uncle lost his life, and I really dont know where else to look. 31st may 1945 B-17G 43-38919 561BS 388BG station 136 8AF KCR(killed in crash) Pilot Metz, Walter B ENGland Barningham/ 1mi SE, can order crash report from site that will probably list crew and likely other casulties. 93rd Bombardment Group 329th Bomb Squadron. As they approached the refineries, the 93rd lead section encountered heavy flak. is 'bombed up' for its 28th mission from Hardwick, England Can I help? They are collating memories from us older residents (or in my case ex-resident) so that these may be recorded for posterity and provide a reminder to future generation of what life was like in the village. Hi John, Im afraid I have nothing more than what is in this thread; http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?73936-P-47-Thunderbolt. 1 Aug 43. 8th Air Force, The pilot, Lt. Howard F. Bolton, named the aircraft for his father, "The Moose," and decorated his A-2 jacket with the bomb-carrying panda squadron insigne, bomb symbols for 35 missions flown, and other artwork. The info I have is that Uncle Roy died April 21, 1944. Veterans History Project Service Summary: War or Conflict: World War, 1939-1945. oil industry at Ploesti, Rumania on August 1, 1943. 328th Bomb Squadron - 329th Bomb Squadron - 330th Bomb Squadron - 409th Bomb Squadron, Search Alphabetically: A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z |. This may be the same crash. He was a SSGT in the 748 USAAF Bomb Squadron. When my grandfather, Rev. About - The insignia of the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group. By that time, the group had flown nine missions, including attacks on submarine pens at Saint-Nazaire and two missions to Lorient. Used to work not that far from you at Heathrow. Pages 1-57 Duties and Responsibilities, and more Click here for frequently asked questions regarding items permitted inside the museum. Does anyone know anything about a 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group (Heavy)B-24H-25-FO Liberator 'Gypsy Queen' Serial# 42-95024 - possibly crashed on the afternoon of 5 November 1944 at Shipmeadow, Suffolk (between Beccles and Bungay. Thank you. They were renamed the 93rd Bombardment Squadron in WWII and later became the . First a few words After initial training in the Liberator, the new 93rd moved to Fort Meyers, Fla., for advanced training prior to deployment overseas. album. One 93rd airplane was lost, but the 44th had its usual bad luck and took the most casualties. B-24 was employed in operations in every combat I know, isnt it strange how one link leads to another! The 409th Bombardment Group was a light bomber unit that served with the Ninth Air Force from April 1944 until the end of the war in Europe. which was found in the Libyan Desert in May 1959. I cant thank you enough. I visited the Forum in Norwich on Saturday and made some enquiries about the crash at Walcot but without any success. I have walked past it a few years ago so its also close to a public right of way. Sgt James C. Hilty, ball turret gunner, survived 93rd Bombardment Group door window at nearby Chapel of the Fallen Eagles. The newly arrived Liberator group attained a reputation as a hard-luck outfit, and took to calling themselves the Flying Eight Balls.. Believe there may be a memorial there now. Assigned to RAF Matching, England on 26 January 1944. 93rd bomb group, 409th squadron. I am going to the American Cemetery at Madingley this coming weekend and I hope they may be able to suggest where they might be obtained. The man is holding up part of the tail section. I thought you might enjoy a different take on a crashlanding site and how its flying along now. Contact in service at Halstead Place in the early nineteenth century. The church has had a few incumbents since Ashlachsen, we were married in 1991 by Malcolm Bury but he has sadly died. Returned to the US, Jun-Aug 1945. HistoryNet.com contains daily features, photo galleries and over 25,000 articles originally published in our nine magazines. So many names from the past! Continued to operate against The next day, the group was alerted for another deployment to Africa, this time to Tunis. Bite-Size Bits of Local, National, and Global History. Hi again Roger For a time, Baker followed the 376th, but halfway to Bucharest, seeing the smoke of the Ploesti refineries to his left, the 93rd commander made his decision. Christmas celebrations during theSecond World Waroften had to be scaled down or adjusted as restrictions and shortages took their toll. Underwood, based on the 8th Air Force Strength Report of 6th August 1944, as published in 'The 8th Air Force Yearbook' by Lt. Col. John H Woolnough (1980). The Traveling Circus attacks were to be conducted simultaneously with the lead groups attack on White One, the Romana Americana plant. In some small way its comforting to see the area where he must have flown many times. 1996 - World War, 1939-1945 - 452 pages. Hosted by Defense Media Activity - WEB.mil. 93rd bomb group 409th bomb squadron. Details added, word spacing, spelling changes. Branch of Service: Army Air Forces/Corps. I believe it crashed shortly after take off near Barningham, UK. He had so many stories about growing up there. The most comprehensive and authoritative history site on the Internet. Do you live in this area now? Have you ever seen the wreckage or heard stories about this particular crash? They were both fencing/wood contractors. For further information on how your data is collected and used, please read our Privacy Policy. My aunt was active in Knockholt WI. and Video files at Marshall Stelzriede's Wartime Story Unit of Service: 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group. All Rights Reserved except for Fair Dealing exceptions otherwise permitted under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, as amended and revised. Written on slide casing: 'B-24 Sandia Base, NW 1946, 409 BS, 93 BG.' Memphis Belle Aircraft Painting Pin Up Models Airplane Art 328th Bomb Squadron - 329th Bomb Squadron - 330th Bomb Squadron - 409th Bomb Squadron, Search Alphabetically: A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z |, PLEASE SUPPORT THE 8AF.ORG PROJECT! Until December, the group operated primarily against submarine pens along the French coast along the Bay of Biscay . 1043/RF: 93BG - encounters heavy flak on way to Misturg.'. The parents of the crew had a wooden church built on the crash site. The Squadrons, then, returned to Hardwick, U.K., on 27 Aug 1943, and flew missions from that station until the Group was sent back to the United States on 12 Jun 45. I am unsure as to quite what info you have already but the details here were found on the internet. I lived there from 1955 70 and small pieces of aircraft were constantly being unearthed when the field just opposite the farm entrance was ploughed. You state you have a fair amount of material re your crash would that include a pic of the crash site ? On December 5, the 328th, 330th and 409th bomb squadrons left foggy England for the hot desert sands of North Africa, while the 329th remained behind for a special mission. It had just taken off from Hethel Airfield on a mission to Germany. Hardwick, England. 93rd Bombardment Group In Memory Of 10. I did try to look up the three survivors, and I was very surprised to see that James C. Hilty (listed as a survivor) actually died on that day, too. Have found following info: https://b17flyingfortress.de/en/b17/43-38919/, This is a british site and the link has a photo of the aircraft in question. If you find out any more you can add it here and then there will at least be a source of info for anyone else looking for it. . 93rd Bombardment Group in World War II. Owner of the original Tom Heavy parts of the plane were said to be deeply embedded in the ground and were not recovered. The 93rd had thus far escaped severe damage from the enemy, but the 44th began taking heavy casualties from the onset of operations. http://www.americanairmuseum.com/aircraft/12924. Can you gie me any information on the crash of a USAAF P47 Razor back THunderbolt near the Blackbrook Reservoir (Shepshed Leicestershire)Around the end of the second world war) ? Because the B-24s were so much faster, the Liberator pilots were forced to fly at reduced airspeeds and do a lot of jockeying to maintain the precise formations called for by Eighth Air Force policy. Handwritten caption on reverse: 'B-24J's of 93rd BG/330 BS flying through flak on the way to Misturg. Salvaged after a mid-air collision The pertinent part of the letter is as follows: Please see below the information that we have on the crash which involved SSgt Logan. on a mission from North Africa in April 1943 and I think it was called Hudds Hill? I visited Halstead on Thursday by bus. More than 18,000 Liberators were produced. They were all temporarily buried at the temporary cemetery in Cambridge, and 3 from this crew remain here in the permanent cemetery, 4 including SSgt Logan were repatriated back to the United States. Pilots ordered the gunners to engage the flak towers while they hugged the ground to spoil the anti-aircraft gunners aim. Sorry, I dont have any books which cover that part of the world,Paul, but someone viewing this page might. From Libya, the three Eighth Air Force Liberator groups began flying missions against targets in Italy, where Allied ground forces were making their way toward Rome. When I contacted the American Battle Monuments Commission I was told of some books that had been written about American aircraft losses during the war. The nose art of a B-24 Liberator (serial number 42 General Ted Timberlake of the 453rd Bomb Group A bomber crew of the 93rd Bomb Group with their B A bomber crew of the 93rd Bomb Group with their Waist Gunner S.J. mistake, please stay and enjoy, then bookmark our url. American plane coming into mendlesham airfield was shot down by following German plane. bridges, communications, and other objectives. The aircraft crashed in farmland near Park Farm which is about one mile east of the village of Hoxne in Suffolk. on it to see it enlarged, it's massive. Its close to a river and is in a small wood. Several were diversions, missions flown against less important targets to draw fighters away from B-17 formations. Pages 1 Richard Storr. site. Was the B24 crash site opposite Rookery Farm, Walcott? 1043/RF: 93BG - encounters heavy flak on way to Misturg.' Object Details Category Photographs Related period Regarding photos of crash sites there ought to be a central source but I understand that the official pictures of the Shazam crash have been lost and this may have happened to many others. B24 Liberator Audio and Video files at Marshall Stelzriede's Wartime Story site. Be Good, the world-famous B-24D which disappeared Three other groups also would hit targets. Ground personnel of the 93rd Bomb Group work on a A B-24 Liberator (YM-M, serial number 42-50781) of www.2ndair.org.uk/digitalarchive/Dashboard/Index/50, http://www.usaaf.com/8thaf/bomber/93bg.HTM, http://www.93rdbombardmentgroup.com/historyfull.html, National Museum of the Mighty Eighth Air Force. The 93rd Bomb Group was one of the three 8th Air Force B-24 groups that were detached (TDY) and sent to North Africa in support of 12th Air Force on 12 Dec 1942. Unfortunately I didnt find any thing new about Shazam at the Forum, but still hopeful that I will get photos of the crew which I need This information means a great deal to me. What a coincidence that you remember him. My dad cycled from Great Glemham and my mum cycled from Saxmundham and that is how they met. B-24 Liberators in formation, returning from mission. Pages 105-121 Power Plant, and more Sorry I cannot help Richard Storr but I am replying as I live in Walcott on North Norfolk coast and as local historian I researched the crash at 1329hrs on Sat 29th April 1944 of a B24 at Walcott the pilot 2nd Lt John Warner REED aged 26 was killed, all of the crew of 9 bailed out and survived. Bomber Groups 1944-1945. Parts of the plane fell in the vicinity of the field at Glatton. Very sorry to hear of your loss, Hazel. Object description Two B-24J Liberators (YM-I and YM-W) of the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group fly through heavy flak over Germany. Im trying to locate the site of a B17 crash in West Norfolk. loaded I am doing research on the incident and I have a fair amount of material lncluding the names of the crew but any other info would help with my project. For the remainder of the war, the 93rd was involved in Eighth Air Force operations flying out of England. Maximum speed: 303 mph (488 km/hr). The British people were now resigned to the fact that Hitler had to be stopped by force. The 93rd Bombardment Group (Heavy) was activated 1 Mar 42 at Barksdale Field, Louisiana. [MORE], Home The aircraft was a B-17G Flying Fortress serial number 42-97236. Several of crew were killed. Kind regards My father grew up in Hoxne, Suffolk and I still live in the area. 1. Bombed coastal Location of Service: Peterson Field; Colorado; Hardwick; England. - Alcohol Contact My Uncle Jack Anderson, who was a TEC 5 appears to have died in that same crash. Just read American Hero the biography of Tommy Hitchcock who was instrumental in the development of the P51B Mustang equipped with the Rolls Royce Merlin engine. One B17 certainly crashed at Home Farm Hoxne. These sort of discrepancies are not that uncommon. Thank you for responding to my enquires. Have you contacted the Neatishead Museum in Norfolk? Going back to the air crash, dad used to talk about growing up in the war years, I think our children would be taken away from us if we allowed them to do some of the things he and his friends got up to!! 376th Heavy Bombardment Group. Sgt Joseph T. Paddock, radio operator, killed That part of the country is not the geographical area I usually cover, but I will take a look at the resources and books I have this evening and will get back to you if I find anything. Google search for more B-24 Liberator images. Length: 66 ft. 4 in (20.22). Thanks to: Liberator Looking at the ground rising beyond and the line of trees in the middle ground, the crash site may well be in the big field to the right of the farm, with this photo looking east. YM - 409th Bomb Squadron. He was a son of George Carl and Ethel Roberta Gray. We need help with transcribing data. Anyone have any details? In late October, the 330th Squadron was temporarily detached from the group for anti-submarine patrol duties over the Bay of Biscay with the Royal Air Force Coastal Command. Sgt John P. Medica, tail gunner, survived. (Some nice drawings in this). attacking lines of communication and supply. Consolidated The 329th squadron had remained in England, working with an experimental program. My dad has been talking about the crash that occurred at Curry Wood as he lived in Halstead and remembers it occurring. First B-24 to complete 50 missions, Boomerang SPECIFICATIONS bomb group. Having stood up in March 1942, the 93rd Bombardment Group (Heavy) was to become the first unit equipped with the Consolidated B-24 Liberator under the command of the Eighth Air Force following its move to RAF Alconbury, England during August 1942. Do you have any details of this crash?. Thank you again so much for responding! Missions were flown against the Italian cities of Leghorn, Pisa and Lucca. Any information you may have I would be pleased to receive. Thank you for your email earlier in the year. Weight: 56,000 lbs (25 UK tons, 25.4 tonnes). Click here for frequently asked questions regarding items permitted inside the museum. The 93d was the first Liberator-equipped bomber group to reach the Eighth Air Force. Weapons. Hi 93rd Bombardment Group , 482 Bombardment Group, 389 Bombardment Group, 11. A B-24 Liberator (YM-M, serial number 42-50781) of Sign up now to receive news and communications from American Air Museum in Britain charity. They were then moved to Gambut Main, Libya, a field assigned to 9th Air Force. The 10-day mission turned out to be a 90-day deployment, with the group operating first from Tafaroui, then moving to Gambut. More than 18,000 Liberators were produced. Object number: FRE 3752 - As the German pilots regrouped, they caught a couple of B-24s that were flying at about 300 feet instead of hugging the ground, where the fighters could not safely attack. (U.S. Air Force photo), This bomb-carrying panda squadron insigne decorated Lt. Howard F. Bolton's aviator jacket. Pages 240-271 Weight and balance, and more See My assumption is that the crash must have occurred the same day, but that may be wrong. Two B-24J Liberators (YM-I and YM-W) of the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group fly through heavy flak over Germany. "The Flyin' Moose" was a B-24J assigned to the 409th Bomb Squadron, 93rd Bomb Group, based at Hardwick, England. Donate Total. It even listed his rank and squadron number (748). England, 7 Mar 1944; Bretigny, France, Sep 1944; Laon/Couvron, France, Boomerang went on to become the most famous Liberator in the Eighth Air Force. Thanks Richard will make enqs re the book you mention. The plane was returning from a raid on the Karlsruhe railway marshalling yards. a MUST! and which test area (Larkhill, Fordingbridge?). All visitors may be screened with a metal detector upon entry. The Traveling Circus was living up to its name. PATIENT, give them a little time to download targets in Germany until May 1945. Ive heard that some of the planes are still located where they fell. 93rd Bombardment Group (Heavy) Marker Inscription. On December 16, the 93rd went to Bremen, the 50th mission for Boomerang, the Liberator that had almost been condemned to the scrap pile after the groups first mission. Armament: Eleven .50-cal. The footage of you flying was terrific as well. Sorry I didnt mention this before. Downloading audio-visual for non-commercial offline listening or viewing. You live in a very nice part of the Norfolk coast.I am a Norfolk Dumpling myself although I now live in exile at Peterborough. The 329th Bomb Squadron remained behind and took up residence at Hardwick. 19th Bombardment Group (H) Hq 8 Hq Sqdn 14th Bombardment Squadron 28th Bombardment Squadron 30th Bombardment Squadron 93rd Bombardment Squadron 7th Material Squadron 440th Ordnance Company (Avn) 701 st Ordnance Co (Avn) 27th Bombardment Group (L) Hq & Hq Sqdn 16th Bombardment Squadron 17th Bombardment Squadron 91st Bombardment Squadron Service Ceiling: 28,000 ft (33.5m). Disclaimer, 8af.org, Copyright 2023, Army Air Corps Library and Museum, Inc., All Rights Reserved. What people are saying - Write a review. On a yellow disc, a caricatured panda bear, emitting three drops of perspiration proper and running with a large white aerial bomb, trimmed black, grasped under left forepaw, point to dexter chief (Approved 16 Feb 1943). Lescuyer vitamin e d3 side! Best of luck with your researches, hope to hear more. Hello, one site after another has led me here. * Firearms, to include conceal carry and other dangerous weapons, are specifically prohibited in Federal facilities in accordance with 18 USC 930 (c) I had an email yesterday from a contact in the states who will send me a picture of one of Shazams crew members so reducing the ones where I havent got a photo to three.