If you or someone you know has a gambling problem, help is available. However, the 10-6 Seahawks failed to qualify for the playoffs. But the career leader in quarterback fumbles is none other than Hall of Famer Brett Favre, with 166. [18] That December, Krieg was named AFC Player of the Month. [21] Nevertheless, Krieg's strong regular season showing earned him another Pro Bowl appearance. Dave Krieg held the NFL record for most career fumbles, a result of both a lengthy career at quarterback and unusually small hands for the position. However, Krieg's pedestrian performance on the road in the playoffs contributed to the Seahawks' swift elimination at the hands of the top-seeded Cincinnati Bengals. Despite a brief midseason slump, Krieg played more consistently during the strike-shortened 1987 season. After breaking his thumb in the season opener, Krieg missed six games in 1991. -Deberg, a decent QB in his own right, is the king of Hall of Fame backups. Late in the 1992 season, I think it was against the Steelers, the recording ended early, like at the end of the 3rd quarter. Krieg has now been surpassed by both Brett Favre and Warren Moon for career fumbles. Krieg was completely immobile at this point. In recognition of this impressive performance, Krieg's NFL peers named him to his first Pro Bowl. ), finishing 8-8. Krieg would feel his absence, throwing more interceptions (20) than touchdowns (15) in 1990. Maybe they should have just switched sides for the afternoon. Use promo code, C.J. Krieg finished eighth in DYAR despite only playing half a season. Damn. WebDave Krieg recovers the botched snap, rolls out, and throws for a touchdown on 4th and Goal. [1][9][10][11], Krieg began the strike-shortened 1982 season as the Seahawks' starting quarterback and played respectably until a thumb injury sidelined him for several weeks. It was Zorn's second straight terrible game at home, and Kingdome fans booed their former hero. He appeared in two other games, going 3-of-3 for 57 yards in relief during a 44-14 blowout of Cincinnati and going 1-of-2 for 3 yards in a loss to the Jets. General manager Mike McCormack took over as head coach and reinstated Zorn when play resumed in November. Jim Zorn had been the Seahawks quarterback since the team's inception, a lefty gunslinger and beloved local hero who triggered a pass-happy offense for the era. Krieg finished fifth in DVOA behind Boomer Esiason, Warren Moon, Marino, and Jim Everett. Krieg also became part owner of the af2's Green Bay Blizzard in 2007 along with former Green Bay Packer linebacker Brian Noble. [32], Dave Krieg finished his career with the Tennessee Oilers, backing up the seldom-injured Steve McNair in 1997 and 1998. Ray Didinger called Krieg the "surprise of the year" in a syndicated awards column. Had some really good moments with Krieg.But he gets my vote for the All time NFL Quarterbacks with the most Balls slipped out of his hands( i swear he must have some small hands?) The Arizona Cardinals rewarded Krieg for his 1994 performance by signing him to be their starting quarterback in 1995. If you did a book of things like these from throughout the NFL's history (the hall of semi-interesting / semi-forgotten), I would absolutely buy it. Dave Krieg. In the team's eight victories, Krieg's passer rating averaged more than 114an excellent markbut in their eight losses, his rating hovered just above a dismal 40.[16]. Thanks for the links! *DeBerg goes into coaching and becomes the Giants quarterbacks coach in 1995-1996; Reeves was the Giants' head coach and hired DeBerg. Garrett Gilbert, Gale's son, made an emergency start for the Cowboys last year. Where is Dave Krieg now? *DeBerg traded to the Broncos shortly before the 1981 season; Reeves was in his first year as the Broncos head coach. Zorn, meanwhile, was getting into hot water with Patera, possibly for criticizing the offensive line, possibly for visibly supporting the NFL Players Association in the weeks leading up to a work stoppage. On rare occasions, Krieg would mop up in garbage time or take a knee at the end of a game. Even when the young starter played poorly,[33] coach Jeff Fisher declined to insert Krieg. Krieg led the Seahawks to a 34-21 win over the Raiders that week. Wore number 17 was traded to the Chiefs and then to the Lions and almost took them to the playoffs after Woodley was hurt. Rhome told the press that Krieg "had nothing but a rifle for an arm" when the Seahawks decided to keep him, but he had since learned the position. But who would hand off to Warner? Knox replaced Krieg with Jim Zorn to finish out the game as the visiting Seahawks lost to the Raiders, who went on to win Super Bowl XVIII. "[39], For many years Krieg held the NFL record for most career fumbles, a result of both a lengthy career at quarterback and unusually small hands for the position. The time before the 1987 strike was, not coincidentally, an era of epic holdouts. With something weird NFL in rti but not sure if have desire anymroe. Statistically, the 1994 season was the best of Krieg's career: Krieg completed 61.8% of his passes and threw 14 touchdowns versus only 3 interceptions, for a passer rating of 101.7. It actually made some sense why Reeves turned to DeBerg when things were tough in 1998, even though DeBerg was only slightly younger than Bob Hope at the time. and the Quarterback who didn't know how to adjust his chin strap properly it always ended up under his nose. In reply to Have for years merged Dave by MilkmanDanimal. I have actually walked on the campus of MILTON, not Ripon college, as well as Alma College in Michigan when my late father suggested that, just to be sure, should also look at small colleges not just the big land grant State schools. good grief How can you forget a dude who had 108 fumbles and 148 interceptions in 119 starts for this team? WebDave Krieg profile, statistics and more. "We don't want him looking over his shoulder to see if every time he makes a mistake we're warming up Dave Krieg," Knox said. It was a callback to when Krieg replaced Zorn against the Steelers a decade earlier. Kriegby then nearly 40 years oldcame off the bench to rally the Oilers to victory, going 7-of-13 for 129 yards. Although he missed seven games with a separated shoulder, his excellent play helped propel the Seahawks to their first AFC West Division Championship. Romo, on the other hand, was flashier and more gifted than Krieg. Small hands. The USFL created a bidding war for top players, and once it folded, NFL owners tried to roll back salaries. "John Elway is a fellow who can really drill the ball Dave's arm probably isn't as strong but he gets the ball there and he's right on target, and that's the most important thing, isn't it?". Krieg was not in training camp that season, but intended on playing a 20th NFL season. Lefty passers! Sports betting operators have no influence over nor are any such revenues in any way dependent on or linked to the newsrooms or news coverage. "The Unholy Trinity" as I've labeled them. Explore sample content below to see what you're missing. He didn't get many opportunities to impress recruiters, so he ended up at Milton College, a tiny NAIA program located southeast of Madison. Krieg's Bears success earned him a two-year stint behind Steve McNair for Jeff Fisher's Oilers/Titans. He passed away in 2018. Krieg worked his way up the depth chart and became the Wildcats' starter. Free agency was in its infancy, and he was the first in a long line of backups to get mega deals off the back of a few fill-in starts. I remember Kelly Stouffer as part of the terrible trio who quarterbacked the '92 Seahawks. In 1986, Krieg played well initially, leading the Seahawks to a 53 record. The Dolphins unfortunately wouldn't win another game, although the defense -par for the course- was more to blame for that than DeBerg or Mitchell, who came back to start the last couple of games. In a 1991 game between the New Orleans Saints and Seattle Seahawks, QB Dave Krieg got injured and suffered a broken thumb. The Seahawks would not reach the playoffs again after Krieg's departure until Paul Allen bought the team and Mike Holmgren took over as head coach in 1999. Dave Krieg. Dave Krieg. To their credit, Knox and Meyer turned back to Krieg as soon as he was healthy. Heck, Krieg owes most of the last seven years of his career to defense-oriented coaches and their obsession with veteran caretakers. Krieg signed with the Lions in April of 1994. Consistently inconsistent. Zorn and Krieg battled through the 1983 offseason, but Knox refused to acknowledge the controversy that the press was breathlessly reporting about. Went to the now-defunct Milton College. WebSEATTLE . I think DeBerg, who had been an assistant coach with the Giants for a couple years between 1994 and 1997, was signed by the Falcons because their top two quarterbacks went down and he had a long-time relationship with Falcons head coach Dan Reeves: *DeBerg drafted by the Cowboys in the 10th round in 1977 though cut before the season; Reeves was a Cowboys assistant coach at the time under Tom Landry. Patera tried to fine players half of their game checks for the gesture, which would have cost Zorn $9,000. Though I remember both, I was born slightly after the cutoff so I remember Ken Patera better. "People talk about the arm strength of quarterbacks," said Seahawks quarterback coach Ken Meyer in a Krieg profile during the 1984 playoffs. ), is beyond me. Although the Seahawks managed only a 79 record, Krieg played well enough to earn a return trip to the Pro Bowl, where he performed impressively, helping lead the AFC to victory.[23]. Krieg placed third overall, behind Willie Gault and Herschel Walker. But the tales of that rifle arm and tight spirals into the wind we read in the last section didn't survive into the era of MTV and personal computers. However, on the last play of the game, as time expired, Thomas closed in for yet another apparent sack, but Krieg eluded the linebacker and threw a 25-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Paul Skansi for the win. One footnote: Gale Gilbert has one other distinction other than being awful - being on the roster for five straight Super Bowl losses. Wheeeee!!!!!! This year that backwards discussion is centered around former Pittsburgh signal-caller, Kenny Pickett. Given the opportunity to play in the fourth game of his freshman season (1976), he completed four passesthree of them for touchdownsand continued to play well enough to start for the rest of his college career. Fortunately the rest of my team was stacked. After hovering around .500 forever for Knox and playing for Schottenheimer and Ryan, Krieg was destined to end up with Fisher. He's now a high school coach and autism activist. Have you bought the book with the best of Mike's first 12 years or so writing for Football Outsiders? Be sure to comply with laws applicable where you reside. He signed with the Bears to back up Erik Kramer. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. More posts you may like. Dave Krieg. He, and his digits, persevered to an all-time career. Sign Up. He played through an era of rapid strategic, financial, and administrative transition across the NFL. That season, Seattle had a Sunday Night and Monday Night game in back to back weeks, both of which Stouffer started. But he barely played in Tennessee and retired after the 1998 season. How much better he was is a matter of debate: five finishes among the top 5 in DVOA for Romo suggest that they are close. Dave Krieg. I was about to jump in by Joey-Harringto. If Dave Krieg hadn't interfered in 1992, DeBerg would have been replaced by Montana a second time, this time with the Chiefs,in 1993. But otherwise, I dont see much. [19], During the offseason, the Seahawks acquired Kelly Stouffer from the Phoenix Cardinals, and began to groom him as the franchise quarterback of the future.[20]. Meanwhile, in St. Louis, former Colorado State quarterback Kelly Stouffer held out for a full year after the Cardinals selected him sixth overall in the 1987 draft. Krieg would suffer a shoulder injury late in what became an up-and-down season, and the Seahawks finished 8-8. They were considered the hottest team in the AFC and possibly the NFL at the end of the season, but missed the playoffs at 10-6 due to tiebreakers. Were supposed to forgetor even simply sidelinethoughts of how accurate of a passer a person is or how well they do under pressure. In reply to "The Unholy Trinity" as I've by Joe Pancake. Exclusive Premium Content For Subscribers. I was about to jump in to defend Dave Krieg, and say, "You're not giving him enough credit! However, even Krieg's good games rarely resulted in Cardinals victories. We should ask Bears legend Russell Wilson. If I'm not mistaken, he was the QB in the Leon Lett snow-fumble between Miami and Dallas. Reply . He was slated to back up Scott Mitchell, the lefty who signed a three-year, $11.1-million contract (that figure's supposed to sound huge, folks) after looking great in relief of Marino for the Dolphins in 1993. FactSnippet No. But Krieg was now an in-demand veteran backup. Gilbert should have kept looking. It was the later-mentioned Steve Deberg at the helm that game. In the offseason, the Chiefs signed Joe Montana and made him their starting quarterback. Krieg left a Week 3 loss to the Rams after enduring seven sacks. "When I got another chance that made me realize how fortunate I was to play in the National Football League," Krieg said during that December hot streak. Krieg returned to the lineup the following week. "He was doing a great job moving the team up and down the field. Zorn's playing career fizzled out soon after Krieg took his job. [7], By the middle of the 1981 season, Krieg overtook Sam Adkins on the depth chart to become the Seahawks' second-string quarterback. pic.twitter.com/wmVSmWf5oO As it turns out, hands under nine inches arent Krieg threw 18 touchdown passes in the regular season and four more in the two playoff wins before getting intercepted three times by the eventual Super Bowl champions. [34], However, in the 1998 season opener in Cincinnati, McNair exited the game with a bruised elbow. Please keep me in your thoughts. "How bad can it get if there are only 50 guys on the team and you're the seventh-best quarterback?" And so a quarterback controversy was born. Krieg's leadership helped the Seahawks compile a respectable 97 record in 1990, but they again missed the playoffs. Still, I was surprised to see trips formations, multiple personnel groupings, and lots of early-down passing from Krieg and Knox. A few other comments from somebody who has watched almost every Seahawks game since 1984. All-Pro Steve Largent missed several games because of a fractured elbow. -The Seahawks actually beat an Elway-less Broncos in the 1983 playoffs. It became a Ryan Fitzpatrick/Harvard type deal, and it framed a perception of Krieg as the ultimate underdog. Dave Krieg played in 12 postseason games (9 as a starter), and completed 51.1 percent of his passes (144 for 282) for 1,895 passing yards, 11 touchdowns, 10 interceptions and a 70.86 rating. Kried to Largent was a thing for several years. The annual offensive comas his teams lapsed into may well have been the result of outdated offenses, weak pass protection, and coaches who thought shuffling quarterbacks might provide a "spark" and that publicly negging their players would motivate them. Krieg would have disappeared if Gaddini didn't have a connection in the Seahawks personnel department. On the other hand, ultra-conservative coaches love gutsy field general-types like Krieg. His college teams had a 14-30 record in games he started (not exactly in a power conference either), and he was brutal his senior year, completing fewer than 55% of his passes with twice as many INTs as TDs (7-14). In January 2017, Krieg raised the 12 Flag atop the Space Needle a few days before the Seahawks defeated the Detroit Lions, 26-6, in an NFL Wild Card playoff game.[44]. ", https://www.footballoutsiders.com/almanac/historical-archive. When Zorn continued to struggle in the final game of the season,[12] Coach Mike McCormack inserted Krieg, who rallied Seattle to a victory over the Denver Broncos. You dont say! Although Kramer's poor play contributed to the Bears' feeble 13 beginning, Coach Dave Wannstedt allowed him to continue starting until an injury sidelined him for the remainder of the season. or. ', and I said, 'I guess I do now.'". In reply to I remember Mirer having a by Joey-Harringto. [35] Although McNair recovered from his injury and could have re-entered the game, the team let Krieg finish. The Kansas City Chiefs sacked Krieg 9 times, including an NFL-record 7 sacks by linebacker Derrick Thomas. (I'm sure it was interesting if/when Lyle Alzado sacked Krieg; it was one alumnus of a defunct college (Yankton College in Alzado's case) sacking another alumnus of a defunct college. Nicknamed "Mudbone" by his Seattle teammates,[17] Krieg led the Seahawks on five-game winning streak to finish the season, during which his passer rating exceeded 126. In reply to Kreig- Fantasy football winner! by ahzroc. His own coaches, however, were another matter. Wide receiver Steve Largent had just emerged as the team's first true star. WebMaybe Dave Krieg with the small hand thing. Many years later, Lions tackle Lomas Brown admitted that he got "gator arms" on the guy he was blocking because he was wanted Mitchell out of the game. Makes sense that it's hard to play QB when you can't throw to one side of the field. Krieg returned and led the Seahawks to a 3-1 record down the stretch. Terms of Use | Privacy Policy | Cookie Policy | Responsible Gaming, Support Football Outsiders' independent media and Mike Tanier. "With a three-day growth of beard and hair that hung almost to his collar, [Krieg] hardly looked like the hero type," wrote columnist Bob Smizik, bringing some heavy get-off-my-lawn energy to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. You and every Seahawks fan over the age of 40. He attended Milton College in his home state of Wisconsin and made the Seattle Seahawks as an undrafted free agent. Bigger hands and Dave would have been so much better. I know I am probably the oldest guy on here, so most of you kids probably don't even remember Krieg, but he was a damn good QB who was also underrated. Oh, and he has the smallest hands among all current NFL starting quarterbacks. Without a strong supporting cast, Krieg turned in another inconsistent year. Seattle also beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Giants earlier in the season. He threw three touchdowns, two of them to Largent, in a blowout victory over the Browns in the season finale. However, he faltered in midseason, so Coach Knox benched him in favor of Gale Gilbert. Little (or widely) known fact: He has the fourth-smallest hands among current starters. -The link to the Jets game is the wrong link. In reply to Great work, Mike by billycurley. And Krieg is better than Zorn has ever been in the past.". The Seahawks then lost to Esiason's Bengals in the playoffs. Does being in the top half of the league in DVOA make Kreig a top-5 all time Bears QB? In reply to I remember Kelly Stouffer as by Joey-Harringto. The Chiefs signed Joe Montana to really feed their habit in 1993. In reply to We're talking about this in by Mike Tanier. Krieg's burden grew heavier in 1990, with the retirement of Largent and the continued decline of the offensive line and the running game. "I figured I had gone too far now, so I just kept going. Legendary fumbling quarterback Dave Krieg third on the all-time list with 153 was rumored to have teeny hands. Patera's attitude toward unions was predictable. He was impressing coaches and teammates with his ability to fire tight spirals into the wind. Terms apply, see operator site for Terms and Conditions. The Seahawks finished a disappointing 79, leading to the resignation of Coach Knox. However, Krieg and Seahawks offense were overwhelmed by the aggressive defense of the L.A. Krieg also played well in Miami the following week, but the Dolphins defeated the Seahawks and went on to lose Super Bowl XIX. Definitely not the oldest person on here if you are using Krieg as a reference .. ROFL.. kids? "When you get a good horse, you just grab the reins and hang on.".
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