Reading any particular article on this website will not force you to change. They learn to be helpless. Dorothy & Ivan Episode aired Feb 6, 2012 TV-14 42m IMDb RATING 7.1 /10 9 YOUR RATING Rate Documentary Drama Neglected as a child by her alcoholic mother, Dorothy is now lost in a haze of drugs, alcohol, and self-inflicted cuts and burns. This story has been shared 34,049 times. And, we know there are those who are more vulnerable to the toxicity that can surface in these groups. This issue of IJCIIS presents an in-depth symposium on end-of-life issues. I may have taken a second mortgage on my house for it but that apology is worth working an extra job. Bam Margera has been a public figure for decades now, thanks to his work on MTV's Jackass. Guess what??? I quit in 3 days WHILE ON A VACATION touring museums. I have a relative who has just returned from rehab and is doing better than he has ever done. Most people can say, oh, Ill have a couple of beers and then call it a night. I am cool. Wow, i was one of the first to step up and make a request. Its when we admit that we are That we can gain some level of controlnot over that thing but our behavior. For a year and a half I have been told that I am POWERLESS over not just alcohol but everythingeverybodyevery thought (so dont think) and I need to pray for my Higher Power to save my miserable ass frommy Self. Im not saying Dillon shouldve killed himself. Whatever you spin it and want it to mean, buddy. I have no control once I start drinking and using. Spent 20 yrs drinking smokin weed meth coke etc. Last month it was Unnatural Selection, and this month its The Devil Next Door, a five-episode limited series that debuted on the streaming service on Monday. Even though Ilych knew that his situation was grave, he would intermittently and frequently be in denial. I dont care how you got there. He cut off ears of workers for fun, tortured victims with pipes, murdered them, and many more despicable, unforgivable crimes. It is incomprehensible to me how AA gets people to say things like this. No one chooses to kill another driver on the road when they step into a car after drinking; but its a foreseeable potential consequence. I have been sober for years, but AA was definitely not a helpful part of that and it angers me that AA is so pervasive that everyone just assumes that if it doesnt work for you theres something wrong with YOU. You have the ability to make the change you desire. If this is because of NA then bless them because her poor sister deserved to hear it. Season 11. Your sick to want someone dead who needs help! For the unfamiliar, The Devil Next Door tells the true story of John Demjanjuk, a Ukranian immigrant who lived in Cleveland, OH as a retired autoworker in the 1980s. Heres how strong addiction or dependency ISNT. Whether you embrace or loath the addiction(s), dont credit or blame them on some bogus disease that can only be cured by a mythical sky-dwelling God. I suppose some people do, but for many the craving just vanishes. 5,295, This story has been shared 3,208 times. Make your own website and spew your nonsense there. And that, we all know, is just a load of crap. Having worked with hundreds of residents managing two 25 bed sober livings Ive unfortunately seen dozens of people tragically loose their lives to their addiction. Youre also introduced to friends in recovery with whom you often stay in contact and sometimes those people arent the best connections to maintain. Can it be death?[4]. Nearly all fear their demise, most hope for a pain-free journey, and some may even revisit spirituality and/or religion. We try to be in control of everything from day one. The program of AA talks about powerlessness and unmanageability interchangeably. He was introduced to the audience as a heroin addict. This is a simple explanation, and provides an out for the person who feels they might need a change explore your options and choose to find a life that makes you happier than excessive substance use. Look at his eyes, there's no light in them.[5] This is an example of a centuries old dynamic wherein even those closest to the dying do not fully grasp the ramifications of an illness. Later that same night, the state of Texas says, James' cousin, Ivan Cantu motivated by his relative's drug debt and his own greed and jealousy killed Amy and James in an execution-style double murder. So, Matt, if you care to answer, do you think hes making it all up or something? No one says youre hurting anyone by believing what you believe but when an entire industry with monopolistic powers (you can only treat people for addiction, while teaching an alternative non-disease view is very nearly outlawed by regulatory agencies) teaches people these beliefs and directs them into a subculture which promotes them as the only way to look at substance use problems then that is hurtful. I am not going to give them the gratification. They learn that they cant change. You most certainly ALWAYS have a choice. I have, however, hurt and annoyed a lot of people verbally/emotionally over the years when I get really drunk. Ivan packs to go home while talking about his relationship with his son and mother. Didnt feel great but certainly wasnt debilitating. How so? Theyve based this on watching too many people try the at-home version of the experiment. Its not about you, its about the harm caused by teaching these beliefs. Does it pain you that I am powerless over drugs and alcohol Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to Steven Slate and The Clean Slate Addiction Site with appropriate and specific direction to the original content. Also, his very sweet son and how much Ivan loves him. Certainly, everyone who undergoes an intervention and treatment on the A&E networks popular television show Intervention doesnt commit suicide, but this guy in the video below did, and maybe we should think about what he was taught in rehab. So, Im just positing that it may not be so much about so-called flaws of the Big Book/12 steps themselves in 12 step facilitation, as much as it is a flaw in some percentage of the people who have developed in their life times- as a result of family of origin issues and/or genetically heritable personality issues, a penchant to use group energies/dynamics for their own unhealthy motives. FOIA But, the fact that these kinds of group dynamics/people exist is not reason to stop trying the next something that will support your recovery goals. Im suggesting that these kinds of 12 step-was-not-at-all-a-good-fit-for-me incidences/results as more of a product of those toxic, but influential, personality types that seem to inevitability surface in many a group dynamic-regardless of the groups stated purpose/mission. On arrival home, just after previously deducing that a physician had summed up a bleak picture, his wife could not stand for his tedious details of office visit. It ran its course and id had enough. 3,208, This story has been shared 2,821 times. I can list you 30 people right off the top of my head I personally knew who have died because of addiction. Now she lives with her new boyfriend, collects scrap metal, and sells prescription drugs to pay for crack. Rather the program has focused on her self esteem. It is difficult to dwell on the topic of end-of-life without Leo Tolstoy's The Death of Ivan Ilych[1] creeping into the margins of the discussion. Cognitive will not provide the fatty calories that feed that fear/catastrophic-based thinking/ prophesying that results from compromised self image, and very depleted sense of self-efficacy. Id also point to the genius writer David Foster Wallace, who was heavily ensconsced in 12-Steppism and did a stint in rehab back when he was a grad student. Stream It Or Skip It: 'White House Plumbers' On HBO, A Comedic Take On The Bumbling Team Behind The Watergate Break-In, Stream It Or Skip It: Kiss, Kiss! on Netflix, a Polish Rom-Com With an Oogy Womanizer Protagonist. Words and ideas. Cant wait to here the response. And anyone can agree and say yes there are studies out there providing you proof. Guess what I got to ask Dillon a question! Perhaps patients could be put in homes with people who just dont and never have used or drunk and who just lead normal lives with different activities to learn, but the patients could still go to individual doctors appointments and counseling sessions for their own personal mental health issues. I'm well aware of the scientific facts and their misinterpretation. Path Bregardless of how great of help theyve had or effort theyve put in. With despair, there is also denial and blame. Also, the AA/NA programs/ 12 steps are one method and should not be considered the ONLY method because there isnt ONE THING that is best for everyone (For a way out example- even water, there have been cases of people allergic to water..Aquagenic urticariathere is no one perfect thing that will work for everyone). When you tune to that wisdom, it alerts you that somethings just off somehow. Does it pain you that I am powerless over drugs and alcohol, Derek? Accessibility Found the Marker for the Aetherblade Cave. No one has looked at the angle, but I wonder how much of his suicide can be linked to the self-destructive doctrines he held so dear from AA/MA/NA. Her brother responded, Exaggerating? In reality, it doesnt make sense because in reality, his addiction was not a disease, and he didnt need to be stuck with it for the rest of his life. [8], Pain, of course, has always been a concern at the end of life, and Ilych's situation then was no different than those of patients now. I have chosen to link only to books I personally approve of to fund the upkeep of this website ethically. But if you want a quick primer on the true story behind the doc before you watch, heres a basic overview: Ivan the Terrible of the Treblinka extermination camp was a cruel Nazi guard who tortured and killed Jewish prisoners in World War II. I just happen to disagree with you and your stand on 12 step. 7,499, This story has been shared 7,344 times. Can you provide proof of what youre saying PLEASE. But, I also have seen a number of individuals who ended up developing increased clinical signs of destabilization, stress, anxiety, depression and lessening sense of self efficacy as a result of their participation in 12 step peer groups. Theres nothing keeping people doing drugs except pain and pleasure. 34,049, This story has been shared 21,112 times. . [6] Ivan Ilych consulted several physicians regarding his condition, and as Ilych discovered then, as is the modern day situation, that physicians were poor prognosticators, The same month he consulted another celebrated doctor. Play S11 | E6. 2,821, This story has been shared 2,201 times. Tolstoy's work also highlights the lack of situational awareness on the part of Ilych's wife. Second, prognostication has not been a long suit of physicians. But last time I checked, commiting suicide was a choice!!! Theres a lot fewer people dying in sobriety than dying in active addiction. He was identified by Holocaust survivors as Ivan the Terrible, a Nazi war criminal who was notoriously brutal, and who tortured and killed millions of Jewish prisoners. The 26-year-old's sister Morgan set up a GoFundMe fundraiser to cover the funeral expenses, saying the family needed all the . Ivan Marchenko was the real name of Ivan the Terrible, according to documents uncovered in Soviet archives. He gave little thought to the appropriateness of this approach to his life. I do get it, and I dont believe it is about me. He was sentenced to death. Per your own example you tried casually drinkingokay, well you cant casually drink. Suicide is something people choose because they believe it will be better than continuing living. These healthier groups typically occur, and are sustained, when there is a very dedicated, socially aware, collective group consciousness about disallowing these toxic types to influence negatively or misuse/misrepresent the 12 step traditions. The doctor said that his physical sufferings were terrible, and that was true; but even more terrible than his physical sufferings were his mental sufferings, and in that lay his chief misery.[18]. The fact is 80-95% of addicted people will never fully recover, depending on what studies/info you believe. There are complex reasons why 12 step peers groups seem to attract these toxic types. Its just a fact. Simple solution: Respectfully kick these toxic types out of your sphere of influenceOr at a minimum, limit your exposure to them. They teach people that they will always be addicts, that they will always crave drugs for the rest of their lives, and that there is no escaping it, but only trudging through life resisting and coping with it one day at a time. While it is easy to say anything providing the proof helps your readers to see that youre not just making things up. addiction) with physiological dependence. #TEAMID Is the Artist|Singer|Rapper|Songwriter R&b|urbanPop|Trap FOLLOW ME For Business inquiries: Ivandanielsmusic@gmail voyagekc.com/interview/check-out-i-d-s-story Posts Reels Videos Tagged In this important portrait of a 19th century character, Tolstoy leaves the 21st century medical community a blueprint for places and opportunities to intervene in the physical and mental suffering of those who are dying, as exemplified in this symposium on the end of life scenario. 12 step programs dont say the person will always crave drugs/alcohol. 12 step programs *do* say that the underlying brain/body process doesnt reverse itself once the addiction sets in. Much love to all, The 12 steps of recovery are the only proven method for long term recovery.I didnt make that up .Treatment centers are businesses they are not AA.My addiction was to alleviate pain .the more pain I felt the more I used.the more I used the more painful my life felt.I AM powerless over alcohol and drugs ,once I start I cant stop .PERIOD.Never been arrested ,no criminal record I was dying on the inside.The 12 steps are where you find the power to recover from a hopeless state of mind and body,to tap into a power greater than myself because I couldnt keep me sober.ABSTINANCE is not SOBRIETY. Both need interventions to reclaim the promise of their youth and talent. Are there probably some people for whom it is untrue? It sorta sucks, for a few minutes, once in a while. So first my 18 year old child is currently in a 12 month treatment program of which a PART is NA. It may. I hardly think so. Im only saying that from his perspective, with the beliefs hed learned, it made sense. Im powerless! You can have it back now. Palliative care team involvement should occur early and frequently. This filtering process occurs by the collective group/its individuals by encouraging these troubled types along in emotional maturity and self efficacy -but doing so always in a spirit of informed compassion and respect. Or nope as in you have some other definition of addiction than what I suggested? For the record: Ive seen very healthy, well-functioning group dynamics in 12 step groups, too. Ivan Ilych felt that the expression of this dropped from her unconsciously, but that made it no easier for him.[14], After traversing despair, denial, and blame many patients eventually discover that spirituality and religion are important,[15] as they were with Ivan Ilych, He cried out at his own helplessness, at his awful loneliness, at the cruelty of people, at the cruelty of God, at the absence of God.[16] Many patients will also ask, as Ilych did, Can it be I have not lived as one ought?[17] The lack of enlightened intervention by others at this juncture can lead to further mental anguish. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. I have plenty of baggage to blame addiction for. Physicians must help families through this painful recognition process. I have recently started using medical marijuana for my pain. But then there will be a time that its 12 beers and some shots and can-you-guys-tell-me-what-happened-to-my-car. That stare told Ivan Ilych everything.[3] This led Ivan to the realization that, here I am, wasting away, no light in my eyes. But the culture you describe is accurate and just a little to simple for my taste. Sad evidence of selective listening. As in, it hinges on evidence actualcan be proven. I got a lot out of my 18 months in AA and NA. I like it! While there I learned A Lot but also learned things I never knew about like how to use cocaine, heroin, and several other drugs. "Intervention" documents the difficulties faced by those struggling with addiction or destructive behavior. Heroin ruined Adam's life and once he was addicted to the substance, there was no letting go. That is what I am now working to regain a sense of myself and my life from. Find the marker for the Aetherblade cave. I have a body full of metal, degenerative bones, well acquainted with Arthr..etc. I was not abused in any way, shape or form. In the end, Ivan Ilych came to a resolution and acceptance, but it was a difficult, distressing, and lonely journey. I will continue to attend meetings here because it helps support my kid. His case is the extreme example and outcome of what I see in people whove been involved in the recovery culture daily. Thats why I tried countless times to stop drinking. The site is secure. Despite strong evidence that Demjanjuk was still a former Nazi guard, even if he was not Ivan the Terrible, the court overturned its decision and reluctantly released Demjanjuk back to his home in Cleveland, OH. Federal government websites often end in .gov or .mil. AnthonyMaybe your had the choice to quit , but I didnt. Reread my post those of us who are against the disease and powerlessness concepts want to help people from feeling hopeless, helpless, and doomed such as Dillon probably felt. I guess like most things in life, it just is what it is. Since Dylan was rejecting the 12 step support group I did not feel good about his long term recovery. He desired to exhibit the correct manner of dress, and the correct manner of dcor in his home. Therapy, at the very least, can help. '", Ana Navarro Jokes About Sara Haines' White House Correspondents' Dinner Antics on 'The View': "Maybe There Will Be a Restraining Order", Sunny Hostin Opens Up About Receiving Hurtful Emails on The View: Im Not Liked By Half The Country, Sunny Hostin Shades Meghan McCain for Scathing Column About 'The View': "Our Show Is a Wonderful Place". One the house guests that i worked with Tiffany also ended up being featured on A&E Intervention. Slate has never had an addiction problem? I have been lucky never to get caught drunk driving or busted, but there have been close calls (fuc* pigs). To be clearI think most of the time these toxic-types have no clue that they are part of the problem within the group dynamicor that they influence harmful -rather than helpful-results experienced by folks who are just trying something recommended, read about/heard about as a potential resource for supportFolks just doing what they can think to do in hope of discovery of their path to problem-solving toward a better quality of life for self, and also in consideration of their families/loved ones. Yes powerlessness is a scary concept for humans. It is extremely difficult for me to see 12 steps as hurtful or harmful, when it has changed my life so drastically. When it is suggested or implied by a 12 step subscriber that in the case that 12 step does not work for someone, the reason is the person just didnt follow the steps- thats usually an unfortunate indication that they are one of the more vulnerable, toxified by a dominant, negative influencer in their peer group. Because it is a worthy, deserving spaceeven if its in somewhat of a renovation process:0) BesidesAll of our head spaces should be in some form of reno aimed at expansion:0) Thats what we are here forGROWTH. Warning: This article contains spoilers for The Devil Next Door on Netflix. Ratherutilize others, such as family members/peer groups/friends, as a source of inspiration and encouragement toward your continually evolving hopes/goals about recovery. Matt What does that even mean? I eventually was offered a the position of managing that Sober Living. Pyotr, give me my medicine. This is not to be confused with him implying that people should not engage inpatient/outpatient treatment. He was eventually formally charged in 2009 in German court with over 27,900 counts of acting as an accessory to murder. She occupied a necessary and traditional position. What about the others who have successfully completed the rehabs they have started through this program? It isnt NA, or a higher power or anything else that makes you better. if they were in active addiction and were addicts rather than abusers, it gets worse never better. The original episode that Dillon was by far my favorite INTERVENTION episode. Careers, Unable to load your collection due to an error. Luce JM. I think its disingenious to assign blame for Dillons suicide without being privy to what was going on in his mind and the family dynamics at play. Just for today- Every time you do this its because you can, will and do stop yourself. That was one of the most consisethoughtful and balanced descriptions of what we who are unhelped by 12 StepAA programs experience that I have ever read. If I break out in hives every time I eat strawberries and Im miserable, why would I keep trying to eat them over and over again? Intervention. Coke did grip tightly but it was my dignity that stopped me. All the other Ukrainian men. You didnt ask for my pity, but you have it just the same. That is it. He had an ordinary death, one of physical and spiritual distress. It was also a time when he accepted religion. Thats why I think this site blows> there is no focus on the solution; just bashing! The next part of Dillons statement which is instructive is this: Shortly after that I realized that I had no power over my addiction whatsoever. Its not about being cool. Ivan and his therapists discuss the progress he has made in treatment. if your sober or are controlling your usage; then good for you. It seems like the common AA response of They never really had The Disease, then when you tell an AAer about someone who get clean without AA. Here, literature imitates life and leaves us with questions regarding where we can effectively intervene in the important issues of the dying process as exemplified by Tolstoy's tale. Wow Derek! Hi! Nope as in you wont answer? It may not work. It impedes your judgement and triggers something in you. Furthermore, then as now, tachyphylaxis to medications was a problem, He slept less and less; they gave him opium and began to inject morphine. There is no shame in being powerless over something. Unfortunately, this mans untreated addiction took his life!! . I got to look this man in the eye and ask him if he felt he had the answers or strategy for his long term recovery he answered by that he did not and but prayed that he would find the answers. Those who havent evolved their drinking preferences wont evolve their drinking beyond that point. Maybe there needs to better recovery models, or more effective treatment, but the fact is, right now its not available. Now, does that mean I never ever wish I could have a beer at a BBQ or football game? From rock climbing to volunteer work. Both need interventions to reclaim the promise of their youth and talent. So, if we use your logic at looking at how A&E subjects have performed after rehab to judge its efficacy, then rehab is indeed successful since the success rate of those on this show is somewhere around 90 percent judging by the numbers Ive seen. The problem occurs now, as it did then. Files found in archives of the former Soviet Union included the testimony of former guards who said that Ivan the Terribles real name was Ivan Marchenko. But, here is: I know people who utilize 12 step facilitation to support and inspire their healthy change process in recovery. The downside is, that I started paying more attention to the pre-reading meetings and found them so wrong. While death is unquestionably a lonely journey, it is a journey that today's practitioners can better support through enlightened intervention by an effective multidisciplinary approach. By the disease? That evident-at-all times compassion and respect is the tell of a healthy group dynamic/supporter -no matter what methodology/philosophy is being utilized by them in the name of recovery. His novella is an important example of the often instructive intersection between the fields of humanities and medicine. Might as well admit Im powerless over my desire to eat strawberries and surrender.and stop eating them. I didnt like the idea of having a sponsor, and to be truthful I didnt relish the idea of hanging around people just as rotten as I was. I picked this program for my child specifically because it tries to help the whole person. He lay unresponsive for one week. I am an alcoholic and I was extremely put off by AA. 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S11, Ep7 13 Feb. 2012 Zeinah 7.8 (11) Rate Where Was 'John Mulaney: Baby J' on Netflix Filmed? Ivan packs to go home while talking about his. What I do know, is that regardless of A&Es rates, there are much more scientific studies out there, done on exponentially larger groups which say that treated groups generally dont fair better than untreated groups in the end. People use drugs and alcohol because they derive some pleasure from it bottom line. Today, the 19-year-old is a feral junkie, scrapping for a fix on the streets of California. I just simply cant, wont, and dont stop! Misery from the uncleanliness, unseemliness, and stench, from the feeling of another person having to assist in it.[11] The 21st century attempt at effectively treating critical illness requires not only a physical arena supported by appropriate modern technology, but also a multidisciplinary team approach that must include palliation of the body and the psyche. This site is dedicated to presenting a different view of addiction: That it is all about choice, and that you can permanently change your substance use habits without fear of relapse or a lifetime spent in meetings and treatment. He was born Ivan Mykolaiovych Demianiuk, and changed his name after becoming a U.S. citizen in 1958. Lots of people here claiming to know about AA/NA who do not understand it at all. Natural recovery rates being so high, any group of people with this problem who make a quit attempt should have many successes. Frankly, if I think having a beer once in a while is worth the kinds of risks I was running, its not unfair for people to declare me insane. From helping her take college classes to helping her manage her anger its about making small steps so that she is proud of herself and as that hole in her shrinks her desire to use does as well. Does it pain you that I believe in God, Derek? Finally, anything involving the end-of-life needs effective physician communication and empathy, let alone sympathy, Just as brilliantly the doctor made his summing-up, and triumphantly, gaily even, glanced over his spectacles at the prisoner in the dock. In Tolstoy's 19th century example of the suffering of a solitary man, we find a 21st century blueprint for the collective intervention of the healthcare community on behalf of those at the end of life. I have never once heard a mentor, therapist, teacher or other person in this facility talk about hitting bottom, always being an addict etc. he reminds me of Woody Harrelson in the movie Natural Born Killers. Im pretty much beside my self reflecting on this whole situation. Here is an article on Moderation. Yeah My mistake for trying to engage Matt the Clown and his impenetrable Serenity. International Journal of Critical Illness and Injury Science. Ivan was once a rising rap star who got caught up in the "thug life" and PCP addiction. Then, in 1993 new evidence was discovered that suggested Demjanjuk was not Ivan the Terrible. Rather, they say that once the addicted person starts back up with drugs/alcohol, that person has little to no ability to control what is going to happen next. And the alternatives, whether self recovery or some other method are just the same- it will work for some and not for others. Its like youre just bitter that others are getting well without AA or something. Dont be stupid. We all have that innate ability. Relapses happen. Ive enjoyed a steady drug and alcohol habit for 25 years or soreally enjoy most of it, except for the occasional panic attack. He took the spoon, drank it. Netflix has no shortage of fascinating and upsetting docuseries. Man oh man! 12,823, This story has been shared 7,499 times. Here Tolstoy, through his keen observation of the human condition at the end of life, allows us an opportunity to view a 19th century perspective that has an all too familiar persistence that needs a 21st century intervention. Im sure there are plenty of people whove been on the show whove done well. Drug use is a symptom maybe but not a disease. the contents by NLM or the National Institutes of Health. 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